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		<title>By: Global Voices teny Malagasy &#187; Tontolo Arabo: hevitra nanoloana ny fandrarana minaret any Soisa</title>
		<link>http://quitealone.com/2009/11/30/swiss-rolled/#comment-204</link>
		<dc:creator>Global Voices teny Malagasy &#187; Tontolo Arabo: hevitra nanoloana ny fandrarana minaret any Soisa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Dec 2009 18:45:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] ka mamelabelatra ity afisy hitantsika ity: The repulsive SVP, who’ve used what the Financial Times called “strident populism” to target ‘foreigners’ of all kinds in Switzerland as criminals, benefit cheats or worse, kicked off the campaign with the poster opposite: “Stop! Yes to the minaret ban”. Look at the imagery: minarets as missiles, women as menacing, the burqa as concealment, black as a threat, the Swiss flag cast into shadow from the east, the cross obliterated. Nampiasa ny antsoina hoe &#8220;fandalana ny vahoaka mikiakiaka&#8221; araka ny fiantson&#039;ny Financial Times azy ilay antoko maharikoriko SVP manafangaro ny &#8216;vahiny&#039; any Soisa amin&#039;ny mpanao heloka, mpanararaotra sy ny ratsiratsy kokoa aza, tamin&#039;ny fanaovany ny afisy hitantsika manao hoe: &#8220;Stop! Ekena ny fandrarana ny minaret&#8221;. jereo ny sary: tahaka ny balafomanga ny minaret, mampatahotra ravehivavy, tahaka ny fanovan&#039;endrika ny burqa [voaly], lokom-pampitahorana ny mainty, voaaloka avy atsinanana ny saina soisa, ary nahalavahana ny hazofijaliana. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] ka mamelabelatra ity afisy hitantsika ity: The repulsive SVP, who’ve used what the Financial Times called “strident populism” to target ‘foreigners’ of all kinds in Switzerland as criminals, benefit cheats or worse, kicked off the campaign with the poster opposite: “Stop! Yes to the minaret ban”. Look at the imagery: minarets as missiles, women as menacing, the burqa as concealment, black as a threat, the Swiss flag cast into shadow from the east, the cross obliterated. Nampiasa ny antsoina hoe &#8220;fandalana ny vahoaka mikiakiaka&#8221; araka ny fiantson&#39;ny Financial Times azy ilay antoko maharikoriko SVP manafangaro ny &#8216;vahiny&#39; any Soisa amin&#39;ny mpanao heloka, mpanararaotra sy ny ratsiratsy kokoa aza, tamin&#39;ny fanaovany ny afisy hitantsika manao hoe: &#8220;Stop! Ekena ny fandrarana ny minaret&#8221;. jereo ny sary: tahaka ny balafomanga ny minaret, mampatahotra ravehivavy, tahaka ny fanovan&#39;endrika ny burqa [voaly], lokom-pampitahorana ny mainty, voaaloka avy atsinanana ny saina soisa, ary nahalavahana ny hazofijaliana. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Matthew Teller</title>
		<link>http://quitealone.com/2009/11/30/swiss-rolled/#comment-203</link>
		<dc:creator>Matthew Teller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Dec 2009 08:48:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hi Hicham - thanks for your comment. I&#039;ve left a note on &lt;a href=&quot;http://blog.hichamaged.net/flying-with-black-wings/#comments&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;your blog &lt;/a&gt; - very interesting to read what you say. 

As &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/belief/2009/dec/01/swiss-minaret-vote-islam&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Jonathan Freedland &lt;/a&gt; wrote in the Guardian, I&#039;m interested to see what might happen for Friday prayers in Switzerland tomorrow - I wonder how Swiss Muslims (and non-Muslims) will react to the vote.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hi Hicham &#8211; thanks for your comment. I&#8217;ve left a note on <a href="http://blog.hichamaged.net/flying-with-black-wings/#comments" rel="nofollow">your blog </a> &#8211; very interesting to read what you say. </p>
<p>As <a href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/belief/2009/dec/01/swiss-minaret-vote-islam" rel="nofollow">Jonathan Freedland </a> wrote in the Guardian, I&#8217;m interested to see what might happen for Friday prayers in Switzerland tomorrow &#8211; I wonder how Swiss Muslims (and non-Muslims) will react to the vote.</p>
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		<title>By: Hicham Maged</title>
		<link>http://quitealone.com/2009/11/30/swiss-rolled/#comment-202</link>
		<dc:creator>Hicham Maged</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Dec 2009 05:04:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Matthew,
The result of the vote reflected this perfectly; following political discourses that found stereotypes a good base for them to stand, and thus falling into the trap of fear.

If you&#039;re following reactions on the internet, you shall discover also that people start arguing about how to describe this; i.e. whether it is &quot;xenophobia&quot;, &quot;racist&quot;or just stop by &quot;hey it is Swiss democracy&quot; but no arguments about problem(s) led to this result in a country like Switzerland.

You&#039;ve perfectly went beyond this, and here I am recalling Tariq Ramadan&#039;s commentary on this too. Finally, I&#039;ve blogged about this issue three days ago and you are welcomed to read.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Matthew,<br />
The result of the vote reflected this perfectly; following political discourses that found stereotypes a good base for them to stand, and thus falling into the trap of fear.</p>
<p>If you&#8217;re following reactions on the internet, you shall discover also that people start arguing about how to describe this; i.e. whether it is &#8220;xenophobia&#8221;, &#8220;racist&#8221;or just stop by &#8220;hey it is Swiss democracy&#8221; but no arguments about problem(s) led to this result in a country like Switzerland.</p>
<p>You&#8217;ve perfectly went beyond this, and here I am recalling Tariq Ramadan&#8217;s commentary on this too. Finally, I&#8217;ve blogged about this issue three days ago and you are welcomed to read.</p>
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		<title>By: Global Voices in Italiano &#187; Mondo arabo: prime reazioni online al divieto dei minareti in Svizzera</title>
		<link>http://quitealone.com/2009/11/30/swiss-rolled/#comment-201</link>
		<dc:creator>Global Voices in Italiano &#187; Mondo arabo: prime reazioni online al divieto dei minareti in Svizzera</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Dec 2009 04:45:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] attivisti svizzeri e analizza quelli di entrambi i contendenti. Quella che segue è la sua descrizione [in] del poster qui a sinistra: Il ripugnante partito SVP [it] ha fatto ampiamente ricorso a quello [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] attivisti svizzeri e analizza quelli di entrambi i contendenti. Quella che segue è la sua descrizione [in] del poster qui a sinistra: Il ripugnante partito SVP [it] ha fatto ampiamente ricorso a quello [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Global Voices بالعربية &#187; العالم العربي: ردود الفعل حول حظر سويسرا للمآذن</title>
		<link>http://quitealone.com/2009/11/30/swiss-rolled/#comment-200</link>
		<dc:creator>Global Voices بالعربية &#187; العالم العربي: ردود الفعل حول حظر سويسرا للمآذن</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Dec 2009 13:17:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] السويسرية مستثنياً كلا الطرفين من الصراع القائم واصفا الملصق [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] السويسرية مستثنياً كلا الطرفين من الصراع القائم واصفا الملصق [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Matthew Teller</title>
		<link>http://quitealone.com/2009/11/30/swiss-rolled/#comment-199</link>
		<dc:creator>Matthew Teller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Dec 2009 21:51:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for your comment, Laura. It&#039;s a fair point, but I disagree. The clouds poster was trying to &#039;provoke the opposite&#039;, that is, a calm sense of perspective. It failed because it was too abstract, but the motivation was right. 

Something more concrete would have worked better - perhaps an image of ordinary Swiss people going to pray in a minaret-less mosque, with the statistic that of more than 200 mosques in Switzerland currently, only 4 have minarets (i.e. mosques aren&#039;t scary).

Or an image of a Swiss workplace, or a cafe, or a cinema audience, showing a diversity of ethnicities and styles of dress (i.e. Muslims aren&#039;t scary).

Or an image to engender pride in the nation - Switzerland as a place of welcome, security and prosperity for all (i.e. &#039;yes we can&#039;).

Let&#039;s face it - there are any number of ways to defuse the kinds of fears that racists like to whip up - because those fears (of being swamped, of cultural miscegenation, of loss of identity, of otherness) are essentially groundless. They are childish fears of monsters under the bed. In an adult they strike me as akin to mental illness. In a society they are like a form of mass hysteria.

Take the racist arguments, address them line by line, pick them apart and expose them. Take their single images, and counter them with single images. Most of all, laugh at them, because they are ridiculous little people.

You&#039;re right about complacency. This vote highlights a depth of smugness, docility and apathy on the part of the Swiss establishment that has shocked even me (and I&#039;ve spent a LOT of time in Switzerland). That&#039;s why I posted. Not to challenge the racists, but to shame the anti-racists. They have failed their country, and the world.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for your comment, Laura. It&#8217;s a fair point, but I disagree. The clouds poster was trying to &#8216;provoke the opposite&#8217;, that is, a calm sense of perspective. It failed because it was too abstract, but the motivation was right. </p>
<p>Something more concrete would have worked better &#8211; perhaps an image of ordinary Swiss people going to pray in a minaret-less mosque, with the statistic that of more than 200 mosques in Switzerland currently, only 4 have minarets (i.e. mosques aren&#8217;t scary).</p>
<p>Or an image of a Swiss workplace, or a cafe, or a cinema audience, showing a diversity of ethnicities and styles of dress (i.e. Muslims aren&#8217;t scary).</p>
<p>Or an image to engender pride in the nation &#8211; Switzerland as a place of welcome, security and prosperity for all (i.e. &#8216;yes we can&#8217;).</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s face it &#8211; there are any number of ways to defuse the kinds of fears that racists like to whip up &#8211; because those fears (of being swamped, of cultural miscegenation, of loss of identity, of otherness) are essentially groundless. They are childish fears of monsters under the bed. In an adult they strike me as akin to mental illness. In a society they are like a form of mass hysteria.</p>
<p>Take the racist arguments, address them line by line, pick them apart and expose them. Take their single images, and counter them with single images. Most of all, laugh at them, because they are ridiculous little people.</p>
<p>You&#8217;re right about complacency. This vote highlights a depth of smugness, docility and apathy on the part of the Swiss establishment that has shocked even me (and I&#8217;ve spent a LOT of time in Switzerland). That&#8217;s why I posted. Not to challenge the racists, but to shame the anti-racists. They have failed their country, and the world.</p>
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		<title>By: Laura</title>
		<link>http://quitealone.com/2009/11/30/swiss-rolled/#comment-198</link>
		<dc:creator>Laura</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Dec 2009 20:50:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Perhaps the opposing side was too complacent- from what I&#039;ve read it seems like they assumed the measure would never pass in the first place.  They probably just didn&#039;t try very hard.

That said, I&#039;m not sure what they could have done.  It seems unfortunately very easy to provoke fear with a poster.  I&#039;m not sure how to provoke the opposite, or undo the fear with such a simple medium.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Perhaps the opposing side was too complacent- from what I&#8217;ve read it seems like they assumed the measure would never pass in the first place.  They probably just didn&#8217;t try very hard.</p>
<p>That said, I&#8217;m not sure what they could have done.  It seems unfortunately very easy to provoke fear with a poster.  I&#8217;m not sure how to provoke the opposite, or undo the fear with such a simple medium.</p>
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		<title>By: Matthew Teller</title>
		<link>http://quitealone.com/2009/11/30/swiss-rolled/#comment-197</link>
		<dc:creator>Matthew Teller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Dec 2009 15:28:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Delighted to. You&#039;ll agree that the image you pinpoint is not a true representation of a likely scenario - that the Wasserturm will be demolished and a minaret of this stature put in its place?

Then you&#039;ll also agree, I imagine, that this fictitious scene is intended to inspire outrage in those who view it, at the thought of Islam (represented by the minaret) displacing the culture and atmosphere of traditional Lucerne (represented by the fallen tower, the 14th-century wooden Chapel Bridge to the right and the Jesuit church in the background).

To be clear - the responses that the designers wish to engender by creating this fiction are outrage and loathing at the &#039;foreignness&#039; of the scene.

You&#039;ll also agree, I hope, that a poster designed to evoke outrage and loathing at the prospect of a foreign cultural implant in the viewer&#039;s home city qualifies as xenophobic in its aims and ideals.

If you do, then since this particular expression of xenophobia was not made in isolation, but rather in the context of a political campaign specifically targeted at the suppression of the cultural attributes of one particular religious group, it therefore crosses the line from mere xenophobia to become an active attempt to influence public opinion and therefore collude in that public act of cultural suppression.

Political suppression, in the public arena, of one cultural group on the grounds of that group&#039;s religion is persecution.

Persecution on religious grounds is racist.

And no, I don&#039;t have a link to the Swiss Society of Minorities.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Delighted to. You&#8217;ll agree that the image you pinpoint is not a true representation of a likely scenario &#8211; that the Wasserturm will be demolished and a minaret of this stature put in its place?</p>
<p>Then you&#8217;ll also agree, I imagine, that this fictitious scene is intended to inspire outrage in those who view it, at the thought of Islam (represented by the minaret) displacing the culture and atmosphere of traditional Lucerne (represented by the fallen tower, the 14th-century wooden Chapel Bridge to the right and the Jesuit church in the background).</p>
<p>To be clear &#8211; the responses that the designers wish to engender by creating this fiction are outrage and loathing at the &#8216;foreignness&#8217; of the scene.</p>
<p>You&#8217;ll also agree, I hope, that a poster designed to evoke outrage and loathing at the prospect of a foreign cultural implant in the viewer&#8217;s home city qualifies as xenophobic in its aims and ideals.</p>
<p>If you do, then since this particular expression of xenophobia was not made in isolation, but rather in the context of a political campaign specifically targeted at the suppression of the cultural attributes of one particular religious group, it therefore crosses the line from mere xenophobia to become an active attempt to influence public opinion and therefore collude in that public act of cultural suppression.</p>
<p>Political suppression, in the public arena, of one cultural group on the grounds of that group&#8217;s religion is persecution.</p>
<p>Persecution on religious grounds is racist.</p>
<p>And no, I don&#8217;t have a link to the Swiss Society of Minorities.</p>
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		<title>By: Stephen Gash</title>
		<link>http://quitealone.com/2009/11/30/swiss-rolled/#comment-196</link>
		<dc:creator>Stephen Gash</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Dec 2009 15:06:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Quote: &quot;Though, handily, the Lucerne racists have helpfully added “Stop Islamisation!” to ram their message home.&quot;

Would you care to explain the nature of the &quot;racism&quot; exactly?

The Society of Minorities&#039;s poster was excellent. It said it all. We&#039;ll probably use it. Do you have a link to their site?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Quote: &#8220;Though, handily, the Lucerne racists have helpfully added “Stop Islamisation!” to ram their message home.&#8221;</p>
<p>Would you care to explain the nature of the &#8220;racism&#8221; exactly?</p>
<p>The Society of Minorities&#8217;s poster was excellent. It said it all. We&#8217;ll probably use it. Do you have a link to their site?</p>
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		<title>By: Global Voices Online &#187; Arab World: Reactions to the Swiss Ban on Minarets</title>
		<link>http://quitealone.com/2009/11/30/swiss-rolled/#comment-195</link>
		<dc:creator>Global Voices Online &#187; Arab World: Reactions to the Swiss Ban on Minarets</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Dec 2009 12:40:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] picking apart both sides of the battle in this post, describing the poster to the left: The repulsive SVP, who’ve used what the Financial Times called [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Democracy denied in Switzerland &#171; The Democratic Society Blog</title>
		<link>http://quitealone.com/2009/11/30/swiss-rolled/#comment-194</link>
		<dc:creator>Democracy denied in Switzerland &#171; The Democratic Society Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Nov 2009 21:36:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] news from Switzerland is bad, not just for the overwhelmingly moderate Swiss Muslim population, but also for democratic [...]</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Nov 2009 15:20:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] This post was mentioned on Twitter by Matthew Teller and Matthew Teller, Hazem Zureiqat. Hazem Zureiqat said: RT @matthewteller: How Switzerland was persuaded by the racists: blog on the anti-minaret poster campaign http://bit.ly/7Ww165 [...]</description>
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